Trump Received a Hostile Communication From Oath Keeper Rhodes After January 6, a Witness Claims

According to testimony given in federal court on Wednesday, Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes attempted to convince President Donald Trump that it was still possible to utilize paramilitary organizations to maintain power by force four days after the riot at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021.

In a taped discussion on January 10, Rhodes boasted that he would have killed House Speaker Nancy Pelosi if protesters “should have brought firearms” to Washington and “we could have corrected it right then and there” (D-Calif.).

Jason Alpers, who identified himself on the witness stand as a military veteran and the co-founder of Allied Security Operations Group, and Rhodes met in Texas where Rhodes made the violent remarks (ASOG). Through fraudulent and faulty reports about voting machine software, that organization was instrumental in the dissemination of rumors about the 2020 election.

NEW: An Oath Keeper who pleaded guilty to obstructing Congress on Jan. 6 broke down on the stand today as he testified against his former allies.

He described being radicalized by YouTube/Facebook content after Nov. 3.https://t.co/xuoWJg2ZC2

— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) October 31, 2022

Alpers claimed on the witness stand that he had an “indirect” connection to Trump’s inner circle without going into further detail. Alpers testified that Rhodes wanted to meet because of the perceived relationship. In order to appropriately “give information to President Trump,” he claimed he had filmed the meeting. What he received, according to him, concerned him enough for him to eventually contact the FBI.

In the sixth week of the trial for Rhodes and four other defendants accused of participating in a seditious plot against the United States government, Alpers took the witness stand. He was one of the final witnesses the prosecution called in an effort to show that the Oath Keepers’ actions on January 6 were only one element of a larger scheme to use all means necessary to thwart the constitutional transfer of power.

Oath Keepers cooperator claims that he observed a “Bastille-type” event on January 6. Following Alpers’ testimony, an FBI agent presented weapons, knives, and tactical equipment that Rhodes reportedly spent over $17,000 on after January 6 and read communications in which the former Army paratrooper advised his followers to get ready for civil war.

Past dark on Jan. 6, 2021, even after the pro-Trump mob had been chased away and the police had restored some order at the Capitol, members of the Oath Keepers militia kept discussing plans to disrupt the certification of the 2020 election.https://t.co/kk0aBnLmIC

— Citizens for Ethics (@CREWcrew) November 2, 2022

Prosecutors claim that when Rhodes and Alpers met in a parking lot of an electronics store, Rhodes was hiding out in Texas. Joshua James, an Oath Keeper who has admitted wrongdoing, and Kellye SoRelle, a lawyer with love ties to Rhodes, were also present.

As he had previously stated in the media prior to January 6, Rhodes frequently urged Trump to use the Insurrection Act, which he thought would enable militia organizations to prevent President Biden from taking office.

According to Rhodes, if Trump left office, “he and his family” would perish because Biden would “turn the Insurrection Act against us,” according to the recording of their conversation with Alpers. He made a comparison between the election and the 1917 fall of the Russian monarch, which resulted in the massacre of the entire royal family.

Alpers stated that Rhodes drafted a letter to Trump with a similar message: “You must use the Insurrection Act and the President’s ability to stop him. The vast majority of the military will back you, as will all of us veterans. According to Rhodes, he was just promoting what he thought would be a legitimate presidential order. On the recording, Rhodes, though, claimed he and his supporters would use violence even if Trump disapproved.

Alpers claimed that he did not present Trump with Rhodes’s letter because “I didn’t agree with the content.” He added that he was concerned that his “relationships and credibility” might suffer as a result of his affiliation with these “extreme views.”

On January 6, 2021, supporters of President Donald Trump assaulted the US Capitol. AP
Rhodes is heard saying, “Here’s the thing, we’re going to fight.” “We won’t allow them to come and get our brothers. We’re going to fight, and we’re going to win the battle.

And according to Rhodes, if he had known on January 6 that Trump would never use the Insurrection Act, he might have gone as far as assassinating a Democratic leader that day. In the recording, Rhodes states, “If he’s not going to do the proper thing, and he’s just going to let himself be removed illegally, then we should have brought firearms.” “We had the opportunity to solve it immediately. Pelosi would be hung from a lamppost by me.

Paul Pelosi, Pelosi’s husband, is in the hospital after being attacked by a man who authorities said was out to get her. The incident, according to Rhodes on the tape, was “positive in the end” because it “showed the people that we have a spirit of resistance,” he added.

However, he asserted that if Trump leaves office, “every one that was in the Capitol” risks facing charges of “felony murder… because someone died.” According to SoRelle, “I know it’s going to happen.” When another felony crime is committed and someone dies as a result, this is considered felony murder.

Alpers told Rhodes in the recording that he didn’t believe Trump would use the Insurrection Act. While the law was being discussed in “circles involving election fraud,” he claimed, his impression was based on what was said in Trump’s “close circle.”

According to emails from Trump’s attorney John Eastman that were made public on Wednesday, the topic was discussed by the president’s confidantes. Eastman advised an unidentified correspondent to “desist from this road” on December 19, 2020, because “it would lead to a constitutional crisis.”

Alpers previously stated to The Washington Post that, as far as he was aware, ASOG started its “election fraud initiative” after he left the organization. Josh Merritt, a former ASOG employee, claimed on a podcast last year that Phil Waldron, with whom he served in Afghanistan, was connected to the group thanks to Alpers. “Alpers was mental operations. Waldron was involved in psychological operations, according to Merritt.

The retired colonel, Waldron, worked closely with Trump’s attorney Rudy Giuliani on legal challenges to the vote count, visited the White House on multiple occasions to present alleged evidence of election fraud, and distributed a PowerPoint presentation before Jan. 6 suggesting that Trump could use troops to seize ballots.

A request for comment from Waldron was not answered. According to one ASOG investigation on voting software used in Antrim County, Michigan, there was a widespread plot to manipulate the results of the election.

According to former attorney general William P. Barr, the report’s main assertions were quickly refuted by outside experts and Homeland Security officials, but Trump insisted it was “absolute proof” of fraud that would keep him in power for another term.

Alpers claimed that he originally took no action about the tape because he “didn’t want to get involved,” but that he later talked with federal law enforcement in the spring of 2021.

Having been in the military, he understood that asking for civil war on American soil meant that blood would be shed on the streets where his family lived. At that moment, I took a step back and began to wonder if it would be best not to push this issue with President Trump.

Records reveal that Rhodes informed Oath Keepers leaders four days after his meeting with Alpers that “it is, unfortunately, becoming evident that President Trump will not be taking the decisive step we pushed him to take.” He urged the organization to “muster” against “an illegitimate dictatorship” and to erase all communications pertaining to January 6.

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